[** ISO-8859-7 charset **] Re: Channeling Erik: Channeling TrumpĒs Higher Self (fwd)

[Noelle <noelle>]

 > From: Marnie <http://www.gmail.com/~369marnie>
 > Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:19:12 -0500
 > 
 > OH yeah....well, here is a connection to his higher self which is not
 > really known to himself probably and not know to anyone who hears his
 > shallow words....
 > We all have higher and lower selves. That's the only point here.
 > The point is not to say he's right nor wrong, not in my eyes anyway....just
 > that there is a grand scheme to why he is doing and saying the things he
 > does.
 > 
 > On Monday, November 7, 2016, Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg>
 > wrote:
 > 
 > > how can he inspire respect in the way he talks to people and disrespects
 > > most women? I really don't get this.
 > > He went to The Power of Positive Thinking author Norman Vincent Peale's
 > > church so he believes whatever he says no matter how insane or untruthful.
 > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2016, Marnie wrote:
 > >
 > >  > Channeling Trumps higher self:
 > >  >
 > >  > """"""Me: Okay, letâ??s bring in Donald Trumpâ??s Higher Self.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Heâ??s also a very calm Higher Self, very dominant feeling, very 
 > >  > big,
 > >  > but also still very calm. I think any time we talk to anyoneâ??s Higher Self,
 > >  > itâ??s probably going to be that way.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Youâ??re probably right. Well, Iâ??m going to ask you, Trumpâ??s 
 > >  > Higher Self,
 > >  > some questions about the human Trump, the personality of Trump. Why does he
 > >  > want to become president? Is it for fame? Is it for money? Well, he doesnâ??t
 > >  > need money, I guess. Is it because he loves his country? It could be all of
 > >  > those or more. What are your intentions?
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Itâ??s about the country, and itâ??s about changing the way the country
 > >  > acts and behaves.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: It feels very similar to Hillary, but Hillaryâ??s Higher Self was
 > >  > talking more about laws and regulations, but this is more aboutâ??it 
 > >  > feels
 > >  > like he wants to collectively change the way we behave towards each other.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: What do you mean?
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: I want to inspire more respect in a good way.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: That people should learn to respect each other?
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Yeah.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: How will you do that?
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Yeah.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: There are no references to laws; there are no references to money and
 > >  > even no reference to power. So I asked if it comes down to ego, this desire
 > >  > to become president.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Thereâ??s a lot of ego involved, but itâ??s about changing the 
 > >  > way the
 > >  > country operates.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Heâ??s showing me mass manufacturers all the way down to single-family
 > >  > homes. Heâ??s showing me what we manufacture and put out as a country.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Whatever we manufacture, we need to raise our financial output. Itâ??s
 > >  > not in the sense of creating debt. Thatâ??s not what I want.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. Yeah, we donâ??t need anymore of that!
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Yeah!
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: So he wants to make the economy better? Is that what heâ??s trying 
 > >  > to say?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Yes, the economy, and again, it keeps going down to the personal
 > >  > levelâ??who you are as a person and how that contributes to the collective of
 > >  > the whole country.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: My role for this spiritual contract, even if I donâ??t get into office
 > >  > but still having campaigned, I want to make you think about your
 > >  > discernment of who you are as an American citizen, but still making others
 > >  > who arenâ??t Americans change their views on how they think about 
 > >  > America.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. Is that in a positive way or a negative way?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Iâ??ll be honest. It actually feels negative. It kind of feels 
 > >  > like
 > >  > Americaâ??and again, this is coming from his Higher Selfâ??it feels 
 > >  > like the
 > >  > effect would be other countries seeing America as the bully.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. But where does this whole respect thing come in? That doesnâ??
 > >  > t
 > >  > sound likeâ??
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: If I take office, Americans will become more respectful of and
 > >  > cooperative with each other, and collectively, thereâ??ll be more ego 
 > >  > in the
 > >  > country.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Like more patriotism, nationalism, Americanism? Will the idea of
 > >  > American exceptionalism come back so the rest of the world will see us as
 > >  > arrogant? Is that what youâ??re saying?
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Exactly.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Well, at least weâ??ll respect each other and our citizenship. I mean, I
 > >  > donâ??t know. Are you really going to build that wall? Thatâ??s what I 
 > >  > want to
 > >  > know!
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim (chuckling): I canâ??t get a full 100% yes.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: All right. Letâ??s talk about your trustworthiness and likeability
 > >  > numbers. Theyâ??re pretty bad, especially the likeability ones, 
 > >  > especially
 > >  > among women.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: That shifted to the lower self when you asked that. I honestly heard,
 > >  > â??People hate me.â??
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Aw, no.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Knowing that, feeling that, being very aware of that doesnâ??t change
 > >  > his discernment. It doesnâ??t affect him.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. Are you going to do something to make women like you more?
 > >  >
 > >  > He shakes his head, no.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: No? Now, the personal attacks you make like Lying Ted and Crooked
 > >  > Hillary, it makes you sound almost childish. Whatâ??s that all about?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: This is back from the Higher Self.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: I mean, it seems like youâ??re very thin-skinned, and if somebody 
 > >  > does
 > >  > something to you thatâ??s negative, you react almost childishly.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: In this kind of setting, in the public eye, people are going to dig
 > >  > as deep as they can and pull outâ??
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: And then he says the word, â??negligenceâ?? in the middle of that 
 > >  > whole
 > >  > sentence!
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay!
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: They pull out things that would otherwise have been neglected or not
 > >  > cared about, but understand that thereâ??s a lot of ego involved and thereâ??s
 > >  > a reason for that. That ego has a need to retaliate because itâ??s 
 > >  > about
 > >  > power, about being â??up.â??
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Is he protecting himself, maybe? I think his father was pretty hard on
 > >  > him so maybe thatâ??s part of it. Iâ??m talking about his upbringing. I 
 > >  > have
 > >  > compassion for him.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Yes, protecting himself, but also thereâ??s a need to prove. He
 > >  > retaliates to prove himself again and again and again.
 > >  >
 > >  > Sounds exhausting.
 > >  >
 > >  > Trump: Thatâ??s been his spiritual mission his whole life from the day 
 > >  > he was
 > >  > born.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. Like I asked Hillary, Iâ??m going to ask you, is your lower self,
 > >  > the human Donald Trump, an honest man?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim (chuckling): I canâ??t give a full yes.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Oh, wow. White lies? Are you a dishonest man?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Let me explain that for a minute. When I say, â??I canâ??t give a 
 > >  > yes,â??
 > >  > itâ??s because no matter what weâ??re talking about, the energy will completely
 > >  > align with yes or completely align with no. In this case, itâ??s not
 > >  > completely aligned to yes or no.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Maybe sometimes heâ??s honest and sometimes heâ??s not.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Yes. Itâ??s back and forth.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Itâ??s the same thing with Hillary. I guess itâ??s probably true of 
 > >  > most
 > >  > lower selves.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Thatâ??s what Iâ??m feeling. Itâ??s actually in all of us. We all 
 > >  > have the
 > >  > capacity to be dishonest.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Yeah, little white lies, baby! All right. Last question: what are your
 > >  > hopes for the country? Iâ??ll ask the lower self or the Higher Self.
 > >  >
 > >  > Lower self Trump: Power and empowerment.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: I get the same feeling as from Hillary: iron fists rising up out 
 > >  > of
 > >  > the ground.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Iâ??m learning theyâ??re kind of similar in a way.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Yeah.
 > >  >
 > >  > Higher Self Trump: The purpose of this is, again, to move people in a way
 > >  > to get them to react and at the same time listen to their reactions. In
 > >  > this way, theyâ??ll learn about themselves.
 > >  >
 > >  > Erik: These two people are both very loud, abrasive and strong with their
 > >  > energy.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay.
 > >  >
 > >  > Erik: So, theyâ??re needed to create movement so mankind can shift 
 > >  > their
 > >  > awareness.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: All right. Who will the country be better under like more positive
 > >  > spiritual changes and in every way?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Iâ??m asking Erik this question. Heâ??s showing it being a very 
 > >  > level
 > >  > playing field.
 > >  >
 > >  > He said the same thing on the eBoard. â??Itâ??s a wash.â??
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: But when you asked who will be better for spiritual changes, Iâ??m
 > >  > leaning towards female energy.
 > >  >
 > >  > Erik: But remember, people, it doesnâ??t matter who your country is 
 > >  > ruled by
 > >  > for your own spirituality.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim (smiling): Heâ??s just kind of joking to himself when he says that.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Okay. Well, that sounds awesome. Thank you so much Kim and Erik. Thank
 > >  > you Mr. Trump and Mrs. Hillary.
 > >  >
 > >  > Erik (bobbing his head from side to side): Yep, anytime, Mom.
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim: Itâ??s funny because the two Higher Selves are standing side by 
 > >  > side
 > >  > like their friends, veryâ??
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: Oh, theyâ??re not fist fighting?
 > >  >
 > >  > Kim (laughing): Yeah! They both do this little bow, pull their energy back
 > >  > and say, â??Thank you.â?? So, my pleasure, as always.
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: That was awesome. I love you, Erik!
 > >  >
 > >  > Erik: You know I love you, Mom!
 > >  >
 > >  > Me: I know you still do!""""""""