hi robert - so glad i'm on your mailing list- attached is a screen view of john's and my annual best wishes for the new year.... rumor (still) has it that bruce moreland is the father of 3 or more, and living again in olympia - i haven't seen him recently. this sounds/looks like him: http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Bruce+Moreland ,http://chessprogramming.wikispaces.com/Bruce+Moreland, white pages has a bruce l - 1607 Columbia St SW, Olympia, WA 98501 360-754-9197 maybe you could track down these leads? and let me know? as for clayton glad - i have also lost track, but your email prompted me to email stanford to see if they have any record of where he is.... i think he ended up somewhere teaching in the midwest. i doubt al leisenring knows - but i can try al or david at some point. judy Judith Bayard Cushing Member of the Faculty (Computer Science) The Evergreen State College Lab I 2700 Evergreen Parkway Olympia, WA 98505 (360) 867-6652 (360) 867-5430 (fax) http://www.evergreen.edu/~judyc http://blogs.evergreen.edu/judyc