Re: comment from British academic about the situation here

[robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>]

This is just the tip of the iceberg.  If foreign students are prevented
from attending universities, it's not just the universities that would
suffer -- all the business supporting those people, including housing,
food, etc. will also suffer.  And, forcing these people to return to their
origin countries will likewise hurt the economy since they won't become
productive workers in the ever-shrinking population of the United States.

It's a disaster left and right, and there is no upside to doing this.

 > From: Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg>
 > Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2025 08:29:43 -0700 (PDT)
 >
 > S.D. in York, England, UK, writes: As an academic at a U.K. 
 > university, I can provide a tiny bit of end-game context to the 
 > ongoing immigration-visa news in the U.S. right now.
 > 
 > What is playing out with foreign immigrant status in the United 
 > States is a "game" the U.K. just played. So we know the British 
 > outcome: horrific declines in applications from foreign students, 
 > leading to a decline in revenue for the university itself. All 
 > resulting in financial default for essentially every U.K. 
 > university. (My university made voluntary and involuntary academic 
 > redundancies of 14% these last three years, for context.)
 > 
 > We cannot kid ourselves about the impacts of what I would call "the 
 > ongoing legal immigrant war." In the U.S., universities will go into 
 > financial crisis. It is now certain. Nearly every college and 
 > university in the U.S. will be in horrific financial crisis because 
 > of a decline in foreign undergraduate students enrolling.
 > 
 > We can reasonably assume that no state legislature will have 
 > finances to bail out their given state university(s) at a status quo 
 > level. So, all will go into "technical" financial default in the 
 > next 2 years, at one level or another.
 > 
 > Again, this is the reason, at an absolute level, that 100% of U.K. 
 > universities are in financial crisis. (For American readers, this is 
 > more than just "BREXIT"; there was a mismanagement of university 
 > finances in the U.K. over these last 5 years that has a lot of 
 > blame-points, a lot of fingers in huge number of "all directions." 
 > My mini-politics for this: the U.K. universities themselves hold 
 > some blame here.)
 > 
 > Not grant collapses from DOGE, but rather the lack of foreign 
 > students applying to begin with, this will crush the American 
 > colleges/universities financially over the next few years. It will 
 > be horrific. All university finances have a business model based on 
 > "generous" foreign student incomes to the university at a given 
 > supply rate. Removing that bit of the financial model is crippling.
 > 
 > Our previous government in the U.K. broke our universities' business 
 > model. Well, your current government just broke yours!
 > 
 > And NONE of this is about "woke" or "crime."
 > 
 > (V) & (Z) respond: For those readers who are not in academia, note 
 > that foreign exchange students often pay vastly more tuition, 
 > particularly at state schools, since they do not qualify for 
 > in-state rates.