Re: Your new eBill from Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E) (fwd)

[robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>]

https://www.reddit.com/r/fresno/comments/anh0ne/thoughts_on_vista_energy_marketing/

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says:

 Calfiornia passed laws years ago that says all Ca residents are
 free to purchase gas and electricity from outside companies and simply use
 PGE for transportation.
 
 These are legit companies, very real companies that can save you money
 depending on how much energy you use.
 
 They assume you're a family of 4 and hit the 3rd tier PGE cost monthly
 year round. They make estimates on how much you will save by grossly over
 estimating how much energy most people use and pretending you'll save
 money.
 
 Then they will lock you into a 3 year committment, it'll be great for the
 summers where you'll pay a flat rate lower than PGE but then in the winter
 months you won't use enough energy, and they will charge a "fee" for not
 using enough energy, turning your winter bill into a higher bill.
 
 There are legit pros and cons and most of the pro reasons are only for
 people using a shit load of energy with almost no regard, people who have
 $1,000 AC bills in the summer will save. Everybody else who already
 manages their energy cost and uses the programs PGE provides to help
 probably won't see any major savings but you'll be locked into some crazy
 contract with cancellation fees and all other kinds of hidden fees.

This seems to explain a lot, I think.

 > From: robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>
 > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:25:56 -0800
 >
 >  > From: Noelle <noelle>
 >  > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 08:06:17 -0800 (PST)
 >  >
 >  > OMG. what are we gonna do about her bill?
 >  > and, no, it's mostly GAS
 > 
 > Since she's been enrolled into the new programs and now has extra $$,
 > she's slowly paying it off.  She's also supposed to be enrolled in ARRERES
 > which will reduce her electric bills; I'm a bit confused as to the state
 > of that, but I'll find out more over the next few weeks.
 > 
 >  > On Fri, 30 Dec 2022, robert wrote:
 >  >  > I assume it's mostly electricity.
 >  >  > 
 >  >  > (Marnie send me her bill.  She owes $1300.  So, ours is dwarfed by hers. 😞)
 >  >  > 
 >  >  >  > From: Noelle <noelle>
 >  >  >  > Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2022 07:32:09 -0800 (PST)
 >  >  >  >
 >  >  >  > this is a lot
 >