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Re: I'll obey, but... (fwd)
- To: http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg, heather Howard <http://www.gmail.com/~hhoward40>
- Subject: Re: I'll obey, but... (fwd)
- From: robert <http://dummy.us.eu.org/robert>
- Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 12:06:52 -0700
- Keywords: our-Oakland-cell-phone-number
What's weird about this particular illness is that, because the entire
group can get the disease if even a single person is infected, just
citing someone is insufficient.
Maybe at some point in the future, people will be held and forced to
take a COVID-19 test if they are found to be scofflaws.
> From: Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg>
> Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 06:42:04 -0700 (PDT)
>
> looking at whole thread it's about how he doesn't want illogical
> laws to become permanent(the police chief said he will not cite
> violators so why have this). but this is not a normal kind of law so
> I don't see that happening
>
> On Wed, 20 May 2020, heather Howard wrote:
> >
> > People are not all wearing masks or liking it, despite their universal
> > availability and low cost?
> >
> > > On May 20, 2020, at 9:51 PM, Noelle <http://dummy.us.eu.org/noelleg> wrote:
> > >
> > > from our Nextdoor.
> > > Not sure what he means by France-like
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 21 May 2020 00:55:46 +0000 (UTC)
> > > From: "Nextdoor Japantown" <http://www.rs.email.nextdoor.com/~reply>
> > >
> > > Nextdoor Nextdoor Japantown
> > >
> > > I'll obey, but...
> > >
> > > Bob Bixby, Vendome - Civic Center
> > >
> > > Simultaneously announcing to the county that masks are
> > > "mandatory" and that said law will NOT be enforced is
> > > slouching into a France-like soupy morass of legislation and
> > > lifestyle all mixed up together in perpetual tension where
> > > "the right thing to do" becomes the will of zeitgeist or the
> > > state or the rudderless majority. One Frenchman told me years
> > > ago that France has conveniently made everything illegal --
> > > everything! -- but people are "free" to live as they
> > > wish. "There is no such thing as a law-abiding citizen in
> > > France," he said. And with hyperbolic flare he declared, "As
> > > you stand here right now you are trespassing against La
> > > Patrie. I do not know what laws we are breaking, but when La
> > > Patrie wants you or me or both of us to be silenced the laws
> > > that we are breaking will be readily available for their
> > > use."
> > > There are no toothless laws. There are just laws that have
> > > not bitten yet. Like speeders happily "going with traffic" at
> > > 50 mph in a a 35 mph zone everything is fine and dandy until
> > > you are profiled as someone that needs to be stopped.
> > > Then the law bites. Minorities understand this better than
> > > anyone else in this country. Police use obscure laws all the
> > > time to arrest suspects. I will wear my mask when I go into
> > > town even though I think it is medically unnecessary (unless
> > > I'm in a crowded place) only because -- right now -- I'm
> > > obeying.
> > > But I will write and verify and lobby to make sure the law
> > > goes OFF the books as soon as possible. The danger is not in
> > > complying temporarily to a silly law. The real danger comes
> > > when, after the public mood has shifted to total abandonment
> > > of the mask, the law remains on the books, and we resign
> > > ourselves to disobeying just to "go with the flow of the
> > > traffic" since we didn't like the law in the first place. The
> > > law remains available for enforcement without warning should
> > > some petty officer of the law decide it matters. And whatever
> > > "matters" may have nothing to do with health or sanitation or
> > > COVID-19.