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- From: Paris Harvey <http://profiles.yahoo.com/allmiracles2>
- Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 14:10:56 -0700 (PDT)
A huge congratulations to you Eric! On that note, let me take this opportunity to share "Great Vegan Athletes": http://www.greatveganathletes.com/ It is good to share all these kudos for vegan masculine health...just to remind though that the original article speaks to the advertising dilemma that needs to be overcome. Paris Harvey Why Vegan? (a short video) Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, use for entertainment or exploit in any way. We are not their "owners". We are their guardians. "Auschwitz begins whenever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: They're only animals." ~ Theodor W. Adorno (1903 –1969), German sociologist, philosopher and musicologist. Think you can be an environmentalist and still eat meat? Think again... Meats Not Green No cage free. No Free Range. No slavery. No torture. No compromise.... Stop eating dead animals! From: Eric <http://www.comcast.net/~eogrey> To: http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:55 AM Subject: Re: [SouthBayVeggies] Meat-Eating is Seen as Masculine I'm the only man in my circle of friends who is vegan. So when I hear another man suggest or joke that being vegan is unmanly, or that real men eat meat etc., I point out that since becoming a strict vegan two years ago, my testosterone tripled, I no longer use any meds for high blood pressure, cholesterol, type 2 diabetes, etc, and I lost 100 pounds. Then I flex a muscle and say that women tell me I'm much more masculine now that I can have sex without Viagra, I run marathons, and my waist is 32 instead of 50. It shuts them up everytime. Eric ----- Original Message ----- From: "Diane Harrison" <http://www.advantagetravel.com/~Diane> To: "Elchanan" <http://www.PathOfHealth.org/~Elchanan>; <http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: RE: [SouthBayVeggies] Meat-Eating is Seen as Masculine Well, then, maybe we women need an attitude adjustment so the men can follow. Personally, I've always found uniforms and power-tripping men a huge turn-off, and I've never understood women who find this attractive, but I know a lot do. And maybe few women on this list find such men attractive, but if you're one of them, maybe think of these types of guys like meat or dairy or eggs or sugar or whatever you've dropped with difficulty from your diet. Just keep repeating to yourself, "he's bad for me and bad for the planet (as in wars & violence)". Eventually, good veggie men will seem as attractive as broccoli & tofu (or whatever your current faves are). Diane P.S. A really good biographical movie that shows how slaughterhouses can be made more humane, at least from the point of view of a person who views animal slaughter as a necessity, is "Temple Grandin". She is an autistic woman born around 1947 who in observations of cattle in her youth, learned to think and feel like them. There's a lot more to the movie than that, but I don't want to make this a multi-page P.S. Anyway, her ideas were implemented back in the 70's. ________________________________ From: http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies [http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies] on behalf of Elchanan [http://www.PathOfHealth.org/~Elchanan] Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 20:16 To: http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies Subject: [SouthBayVeggies] Meat-Eating is Seen as Masculine This likely relates to the increased intake of fight-or flight hormones. The animal knows it is about to be killed (aka "slaughtered"), so it's system is flooded with adrenalin (epinephrine) and other fight-or-flight hormones. These are then present throughout the animal's body as it is killed, and some is passed on to the eventual eater of the products. I know of no way to prevent this from happening, perhaps other than to anesthetize the animal before it realizes what is about to happen. Anyway, as a result, men who eat a lot of meat fill their bodies with these hormones, then with follow-on testosterone (among other things). At a very deep, biological level, they become "more attractive" to many people, not only in terms of sexual attractiveness, but also in terms of power attractiveness. Make sense? Elchanan -----Original Message----- From: http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies<http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies> [http://www.yahoogroups.com/~southbayveggies<mailto:southbayveggies@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>] On Behalf Of Paris Harvey Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 9:01 AM To: A4A Santa Clara Group; http://www.yahoogroups.com/~baarn<http://www.yahoogroups.com/~baarn>; South Bay Vegetarian Subject: [SouthBayVeggies] Meat-Eating is Seen as Masculine Meat-Eating is Seen as Masculine New studies about the reasons of why fewer males are vegetarian or vegan compared to women indicate that meat-eating males tend to be seen as more masculine. Researchers examined 23 languages that use gendered pronouns and discovered that meat-related metaphors were also more closely associated to the male gender. Please visit Meat-eating males considered more masculine than vegans and vegetarians, per study As one commenter stated...this is further propaganda by the meat and dairy industry...however, this study highlights the importance of the availability of meat analogs in the market in order to help dismiss the myth that equates meat with masculinity. >From where I sit, a compassionate man that has reconnected with his love of animals, and therefore not supporting the cruelty of slaughter, is most appealing to me. Paris Harvey Why Vegan? (a short video) Animals are not ours to eat, wear, experiment on, use for entertainment or exploit in any way. We are not their "owners". We are their guardians. "Auschwitz begins whenever someone looks at a slaughterhouse and thinks: They're only animals." ~ Theodor W. Adorno (1903 -1969), German sociologist, philosopher and musicologist. Think you can be an environmentalist and still eat meat? Think again... Meats Not Green No cage free. No Free Range. No slavery. No torture. No compromise.... Stop eating dead animals!
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