back to you about ducking. Jim is a late get-starter. When I called about time I said how about 11am for brunch he said more like after 12 sooo I'm hoping to get started SOONER than LATER, but it's his house and they get up later than we, that's for sure. So, I don't know how much pushing I should do if I call about your're ducking...and I knw that Flora wanted to leave early to go back to Laconia. I'll try to be diplo. Me MoM